Monday, 12 January 2009

Transfer Dealings

City appear to be being given the run around by one or two clubs over the past couple of days. Firstly, the Santa-Cruz farce continues. What puzzles me here is that Hughes would have insider knowledge as to what the fee is, in the players contract that allows him to move as he would have been involved in the negotiations setting it, £18 million has been quoted. Blackburn say they want £20million, but if Hughes knows that Blackburn wont sell for less than £18 million, why offer less? That prat Allerdyce seems to have come back to haunt us, he is obviously still smarting at us asking for an extra £500.000 for Barton and is upset that we sold him a lemon whilst he was Newcastle boss. Newcastle too are being cheeky, asking over £12 million for that world class goalkeeper, Shay Given, now West ham are apparently asking for £16 million for Bellamy. I personally would rather we told them all to F*** Off and rough it out till the end of the season (I honestly don't think we will be relegated) and start again when the recces ion has bitten further into the other clubs finances and the players are a little more closer to be out of contract, then we will be in control. If it were world class players we were talking about, OK go the extra inch as they would be worth it, but I have yet to be convinced that the transfer targets that Hughes has identified will improve us much. Also Portsmouth have tabled a bid for Benjani of £6 million, provided we throw in Michael Johnson. So we not only lose £2 million on the deal in less that nine months but one of our prized youngsters too. I thought it was too good to be true that we actually came out on top on that deal.

10 comments:

  1. You really need to learn some grammar my friend. Oh and its Allardyce.

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  2. Thanks to the Forest debacle and the Portsmouth postponement, City can now enjoy a mid season break and not be rushed into any crazy last minute signings...hmmm..
    Personally, I think we're crying out for a good old fashioned thug in the centre of midfield, who won't be bullied by the likes of Bolton, Wigan and Everton.
    We can aim for quality in the summer and could do a lot worse than sign Michael Owen.

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  3. Sorry Gary didn't realise that my every spelling and grammatical error was going to be scrutinised. Why don't you post something instead of simply criticising other peoples spelling.

    Perhaps you would be as kind as to explain where my errors lay?

    Who cares how you spell Allardyce?

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  4. Load of rubbish that, we all know that Hughes wasnt there when the get out price was set. Santa Cruz only signed his new contract in Aug 08. We cant trigger the 18m release cause until the summer. He is worth about 10-12 million so it is just ridiculous to bid 20m if we are also going to bid 10m + for Bellemy. As for Benjani we didnt pay 8m it was 3.5m to start with and the rest on appearances so if he went back for 3 or 4 mill it would be ok by me because he is wank. As for Johnson going that is also a load of crap we only have one decent ball winning central midfielder in Kompany although you could say Ireland is as well. Hughes will definitely not let Johnson go as he will be given the chance to sort himself out first and get back in the team. So all in all not a very good article.

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  5. I stand corrected about Santa Cruz, I have not read anywhere that the release clause only starts in the summer. What makes you think that the £6 million for Benjani, that we are being offered will be all up front. We will also be expected to take a deal based on appearances. As for Johnson, I hope you are right and that Hughes doesn't sell him, but I have seen several articles stating that Hughes will sell him, so a bit unfair to say that it is not a good posting. I am only commenting on what I have read and added my opinion, sorry you don't agree. As you are so in the know, why don't you try posting some of your knowledge instead of tearing other peoples posts apart?

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  6. Actually read your post again Tony and agree with where you are coming from on not being held to ransom. Just fed up with all the nonsense in the press. I tend to listen to Hughes speak and i get the impression he wont let Johnson go, for one we have so little centre midfield quality and he really does rate him despite some recent mental problems, i just hope he gets fit soon as the quality of his early season form under Sven had us all drooling. I have backed Hughes and i thought he had a few surprise deals up his sleave for Jan but looks like they havent come off so he is stuck with 2nd choices. i just find it hard to believe we will go and pay £12m for Bellemy and 20m for Santa Cruz. What a waste. Bellemy is 30 in July and his career has been blighted by so many injuries. As for Parker he too is of a similar age but i would take him and Palacios if we could get him as i do think we need 2 midfielders and a centre back to be sure of staying up before spending on forward players. It is so tight at the bottom and if we dont strengthen then i cant see our away form changing, we will then be relying on our home form to keep us up and that is hit and miss. We have to play all the teams that are in the bottom half at home and if they shut up shop like Everton we will struggle to win enough games. A bit pessemistic i know but that is what following City does to you. Sorry for my initial rude response and lets hope for 3 points on Sat. All the best.

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  7. It's surely not good business practise to open the bidding with your highest offer. Arsenal have the right idea, agreeing not to talk about negotiations because all you get is speculation about who and how much, and they are usually wrong anyway..

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  8. Brain, when I read your post again, I was a little puzzled as we seemed to be saying pretty much the same thing. If indeed Hughes was involved with the get out claus in Santa's (get it?)contract, then he should know better than anyone what the fee is. If as you say he wasn't and the get out comes into effect in the summer, then Blackburn wont let him go for less than £18 million when they know they can get that in the summer. Either way we are going to spend big to get him and I don't think he's worth it. As for Benjani, we lose money however the payments are made. I feel pessamistic too as we have all sen it all before, but I honestly don't think a side with players such as Robinho, SWP, Elano, etc etc will go down. To be honest, I sense that a lot of blues are fed up with the way things are going. Some are frustrated that we are supposidly the richest club in the world and are almost in the bottom three, others don't like Hughes as boss and some want to give him a chance and are fed up with those that want to sack the boss again. Such is the pleasure of supporting City. Have a good day, Brian and I'm pleased we haven't come to blows.

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  9. How long before Shakespeare Gary points out to Brian that it isn't 'Bellemy'? Fine piece of constructive criticism that was - must be a Rovers fan, no doubt irked at City's wealth, whilst forgetting how Blackburn's league title was funded.

    Re the Benjani proposal, whether it is true or not it wouldn't surprise me if we did get so shafted AGAIN by Pompey. They certainly are hard-faced and have a knack of doing OK out of us (and others). Think Benjani himself, Distin for zilch, Bradbury, Simons (OK he wasn't the duffer that Bradbury was) and then of course Defoe - a deal which must've upset the fans but was a great for them financially.

    We've always been suckers in the transfer market and no matter how much money we've got now, we can't go too far overboard as not only are we wasting money, we are enabling our rivals to strengthen their own positions.

    Personally, I wouldn't be sorry to see Johnson leave. This is chiefly because of what I hear of his high opinion of himself, but also I feel he is slightly overrated.

    To sum up, my position is that I largely agree with the view that our position is not so desperate that we need to satisfy these greedy clubs' demands. Better then to move on and leave the clubs with unsettled players for half a season. Then we can (preferably) go for better quality in the Summer or re-approach the likes of Blackburn and WHU when they've had time to reflect!!

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  10. I have heard a lot of rumours (is that spelt right?) about Johnson and if they are true we have a similar situation to that United had with Lee Sharpe. It would be sad as Johnson looked the pick of the bunch when he first hit the first team. You are right though Glyn, being shafted in the transfer market, seems to be what we were put on this earth for, so I would rather we took our time as we have (as long as we don't get relegated) pleanty of it. Other clubs will feel the pinch financialy before we do and as you say offering West Ham and Blackburn a combined total of £40 million is just strengthening their position.

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