Sunday, 23 August 2009

this week

This week
Well it was a perfect end to a perfect week with the 1-0 win over Wolves. I was hoping for an 8-1 as revenge for the opening day fixture in 1962 but it was not to be. We didn’t take our chances, Given made a great save and Wolves hit the post, otherwise….it was a lovely day, sales of KK went well despite the antics of the I.A.S security outfit who tried to stop us selling, agai, but it was quickly sorted.
Looks like Lescott is finally coming but £25 million is too much and gives Everton the chance to make some decent signings with the dosh. Let’s hope that Wolves included a sell on clause when they transferred him.
This week we’ve got a trip to Palace on Thursday in the League Cup. Last season we crashed out at Brighton and Palace knocked us out in the quarter finals in 1994/95. We did win there 2-1 in 2004/05 under KK when your Ed got merciless stick for having said that Kev looked like he’d lost it – which he had. All apologies accepted., but not yet received
They’re struggling a bit at the mo but I do hope we don’t underestimate them and put out a strong side to go through.

Then it’s Pompey away, on Sunday with a 1.30pm kick off. Here’s the It’s a Fix extract : Promoted in 2003, so in their 7th season in the Prem. and their last pot was the F. A. Cup in 2008. Most recent connections: Benjani, James, Distin, Big name supporter : KK subscriber Ian Cunningham

Last season Paul Hart and Brian Kidd took over from Tony Adams and Joe Jordan, (who in turn had taken over from Harry Redknapp and Kevin Bond), saving them from relegation, finishing 14th with 41 points and 8 wins 3 draws and 8 losses at home.
Against City it was a 0-6 loss at COMS and a 2-0 win at Fratton when we didn’t turn up and not unusually we started their recovery. Crowd was 20,,018 (1404 City).

Fratton Park Capacity : 20,308 (2,000 for City?)

Our form at Pompey : In our last 7 visits we’ve had 5 losses 1 draw and 1 win (04/05 3-1)

Comment: They’ve been taken over by a group fronted by that Sheikh, Al Fahim, who was on the front cover of KK 162, but quickly flirted after his cocky comments, by our new owners. Rumour has it that Dr Thaksin was lurking menacingly in the background.
The money thought to be there doesn’t look like it’s forthcoming so Crouch and Johnson have gone and players such as Distin and James could be off, leaving them weak.
Good chance of a result then if we knuckle down as they’ve had a poor start but were a little unlucky at Arsenal on Saturday.
Wind ups generally include : small town in Southampton, ‘oh when the Saints’ , Shit ground etc., Rags fans used to chant Argentina when they were here which didn’t go down well with their squaddies, so respect eh.

Groundwise: Good chance in August of the pitch being in decent condition unlike last season when the match was postponed owing to a frozen pitch. At least the away end is covered now, but there’s a few stanchions to dodge! It’s still the same old dump though, and the catering and toilets are a disgrace. KOTK relied on Sean and Steve to sell a few zines and we’ll be relying on them again this time. Only sixty left of this issue so get em while you can.You were all very nice last year so hopefully a repeat this. Cheers lads!

Stats : 22 pre-war, and 54 post make it our 77th league meeting, and down there p/w it’s :
Played : 27 won 8 drawn 5 lost 14
Last seasons average home attendance : 19,855
WWTWTWShite : Averaged 8,544 in 81/82 (highest in div 3 so not bad)
Away day zines : True Blue, Park Life (we think)
Pubs: The Newcombe Arms, Newcombe Street, The Shepherd’s Crook, Goldsmith’s Avenue, or down Hilton Road for the Brewers Arms, Travellers Joy, Mr Pickwick and the Milton Arms. Further down is the White House and then Barnacles Fish and Chip Shop. Connaught Arms, Guildford Road
Route: Post code: Frogmore Road P04 8RA

Now then, we’re off to the City supporters club in Spain next week so just a reminder that deadline date for the next KK is going to be Wednesday September 2nd, just after transfer deadline day. It’s A Fix takes in Arsenal, the rags, West Ham and Villa, plus, hopefully a League Cup tie, so any comments, wind ups etc will be gratefully received especially stuff on the rags.

Friday, 21 August 2009

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This week
And what a momentous one it was. Off to Barcelona on Tuesday evening with a fair smattering of Blues including Mrs Onuoha and one of her daughters on the flight from Liverpool.
Hot, of course in Barca, hottest day of the year we’re told. A little bit of sightseeing actioned with tour guide The Blue Vic taking in the Olympic Stadium and museum which was fantastic.
Then it was down to the beach bar for drinks and songs with fellow Blues, but no music licence so no show from ‘The City Slickers’!
Never mind, off to the game and time to give the locals a rendition of “Barca 2 united 0, Barcelohna, Barca 2 united 0 Barcelo-ho-na” Which went down well. Was on the top tier, half way line with the Barca fans and what a performance from the Blues. Martin P did it again, Stuart Taylor (I was high up but it didn’t look like Given to me?) did his stuff as did Dunney (as he was announced) and the rest of the defence. Could there be a better place than the awesome Nou Camp to receive a text that the rags had lost at Burnley whilst we were winning one nil? Oh I never felt more like singing the Blues……? Hardly any buses or taxis after the game though made it a late late night. Back home on the Thursday morning again in good company and the prick in the united shirt got plenty of stick I’m pleased to say!
Went to see ‘Angels with Manky Faces’ at the Library Theatre with Joe and Dolly at night, which, apart from the music, John Henshaw and a few cameo performances was a big big disappointment, so if you’ve not already booked give it a miss.

So, it’s Wolves tomorrow, here’s the It’s A Fix extract :
They had one season in the Prem in 2004, finishing bottom, but made it back last season, so five seasons in the Championship. Most recent connections are Keith Curle, Mark Kennedy, and ...... Joleon Lescott??!!. Big name supporters are Robert Plant, Noddy Holder and Kevin Rowland. Last pot was the League Cup in 1980.

Last season ex Blue Mick McCarthy got them promoted as Champions with 90 points and 12 wins 4 draws and 7 losses away from home.

Our form at home v Wolves : Season’s 2001/02 1-0 reversed their three 1-0 wins against us at M/Rd and then we nearly went and blotted our copybook in 03/04 again with a David James penalty save and last minute SWP goal to give us a 3-3 draw as they headed for the drop, and we got annoyed. 47, 248, (2,907 Wolves)

Comment : Any team coming up from the Championship is going to have to dig in to survive in the Premiership. They lost 2-0 at home to West Ham but won 1-0 at Wigan mid week which surprised everyone.
Wolves have a good recent record at City. This is their second (not first as advised in KK171 oops) visit to COMS and their fans will be up for it. If we really do mean business though we need to quieten them and it is, of course, one of our many must win games.
Wind Ups : Where’ve you bin for the last five years? Going down, going down, going down, small town in Walsall
STATS: 30 pre-war and 72 post make it our103rd league meeting, and p/w in Manc. it’s:-
Played 36 won 15 drawn 9 lost 12
Where were they when they were shite? Av. 4,020 in 1985/86

Thursday, 20 August 2009

Using a Scottish Football Fans Logic......

Barcelona are the Champions of Europe and Manchester City beat Barcelona (the Champions of Europe) 1-0. This must mean that Manchester City are the new Champions of Europe...... are the nice men in white coats ready for me yet? Congratulations and well done to all the City fans at the stadium, who made a fair bit of noise.

Monday, 17 August 2009

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This week
Blackburn away – where it always seems to rain. Good to see so many familiar Blue faces. Scenic route through Bolton and Darwen as the M61 was shut due to an accident. Just glad we weren’t in it and hope that those involved make a full recovery.
Colin Savage said hello. Congratulated him on his article in the Mail which has gone down well even amongst the Blue Mooners some of whom slag off KOTK on the website. Maybe things are picking up. I read his article answering Colin Shindler it in the Bella restaurant in Leigh (so I didn’t have to pay for it!) which we often frequent, just as the window cleaner in his Sharp ragshirt was doing the window opposite. I just had to hold it up to him with the pic of Tevez prominent. “how old are you” said Sue? “old enough to still rile a rag!""Did he fall off his ladder” Colin asked? " well no ‘cos it was a ground floor window unfortunately!" "Bet you didn't get paid Colin" "You gotta be joking!"
Anyway, a good win to shut up the manumedia. Rovers were never going to score I advised everyone around who’d listen “our goal’s got a charmed life today”. Sign of champions who can score early doors and resist the pressure throughout I told em on World Radio (who rang me) later..“Shoot you c*nt “ shouted the bloke behind us, as Stevie teased and tormentd before stroking home.
So a nice journey home and thanks to the manager of Showcase for allowing us into the “Perfect Getaway “ film ten minutes after the ads had started. Perfect end to a perfect day.
Sunday’s Simon Mullock manumirror article started with : One small step for Mansour, one giant leap for Manchester City (check out your KK 162 front cover.) Going on to state predictably : An opening day win at Ewood Park hardly justifies the £100million that City’s Arab Prince has lavished on his club this summer. Well I suppose we’ve just got to get used to it. This country used to champion the underdog, now it's gone to the dogs, what has happened to us? If we were going to war with Germany again the manumirror would no doubt be backing the Germans and putting down lil ole England. Bastards.

NEW CITY SONGS : Patrick Knowles was born in 1947 in Ireland, and grew up in Manchester, becoming a life long City fan, Bert Trautmann being one of his all-time heroes. He now spends half the year in Barcelona, and half in Miami gigging, (lucky sod) and getting to as many City matches as his busy schedule allows.
He’s sung jazz since 1966 and has travelled all over the world singing with the greats - jazz artists like Buddy Greco, Scott Hamilton, Claus Crona, Digby Fairweather, Brian Lemon, Marion Montgomery, Joe Colombo, Dick Johnson and the UK’s Marido’s jazz team, Johnny Dankworth and Cleo Lane.
He’s been part of Jazz festivals in the UK, Holland and the USA with the Artie Shaw Revival Big Band. Patrick has also cut CD’s including a tribute to the two ‘buddies’, Rich and Greco along with his pal Richie Cole, saxophonist, who’s played on Billy Joel recordings.
To the point then, Patrick’s rendition of Blue Moon was recorded in April 2003 in New York City with the Richie Cole Alto Madness Orchestra to be ready to be played on BBC Radio Manchester in May 2003 for City’s last match at Maine Road. The powers that be then at City were so impressed with the arrangement/version that they played it before the kick off of the last match v Southampton.
Patrick has now written 17 new City songs, including a Welcome to Manchester response to Fergie’s recent rant about the Blues, which should be available as a CD soon.
The other new songs, and maybe a few old ones, are to be recorded in Barcelona with his professional band including B.B. Berg and Jose Renioso, in a studio hired especially from September 18th for 15 days, and in the first four days he’s hoping to involve well known City personalities for some fun and photo shoots. Actress Flora Martinez should also be present to add glamour, coffee and sandwiches! He’s contacted the club and has had a good response from Mike Summerbee and David Pullan, and an August meeting has been arranged in this respect.
Additionally, prior to the friendly in Barcelona on Wednesday August 19th – kick off 10pm Patrick is looking forward to meeting up with City folk. On Tuesday evening August 18th at the Manchester Bar in Las Rambles area he’ll be welcoming City fans and priming them for the Beach Party to be held in the Goa bar at 3pm the next day where his group for the day, The City Slickers will be providing the entertainment, in a singalong session.
Exciting stuff then, and we do need some new songs I think you’ll agree. Patrick advises that his friend, Joan Laporte, Barcelona President, has requested a similar exercise to be actioned for his own club, once the City project is completed.

What a shame though that the home game against Everton is off, that would have been very tasty at the moment!
So off we go, from the Blue Camp to the Nou Camp, home of the EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS, Barcelona. Previous friendlies 51/52 1-5 away, 56/57 away 2-3, 74/75 away 2-3, 86/87 away 1-1, 03/04 home, opening of COMS, won 2-1. the teams have never met competitively.
Can we show the rags how to play them? We’ll see, and hopefully it’s got the makings of being a belting trip

So Far - So Good

A good start at Blackburn and as was pointed out by a fan on the MEN internet letters page, a ground that we would probably have lost at last season. I have read mixed reports in the press, some have got a little carried away but The Sun went completely the other way though, concentrating on the fact that Blackburn could have been out of sight by half time and that the win flattered us. I have been around long enough to know what's what and I agree, we could have got murdered at Ewood Park. However any side that plays against a team who thump high balls into the box will be open to making mistakes. There were many games last season that United won 1-0 after being outplayed, but their ability to still win was what set them above the rest. Is it lucky to have a goalkeeper that saved three certain goals as Given did - or is that what he's there to do? I believe that the shots on target ratio for both sides was pretty even as we came into the game more in the second half and if we had taken either of the good chances we had, we could have ended the match and broke Blackburn's heart well before Ireland sealed it. I refuse to get carried away but success breeds success and confidence follows. That is why Man United look so invincible, they believe they can win every game. It's a mentality that we must learn

Friday, 14 August 2009

this week

This week
Celtic at home was a nice stroll and welcome win on a lovely day, but a disappointing attendance. Needless to say, Chris Killen scored for them but at least Georgios didn’t! Worst news was, they’re not selling pasties this season. Why not? They always seemed to sell out.
League cup draw gave us a handy trip to Palace, followed by one to Pompey at the weekend. Should bring back memories of one of our quarter final appearances, highlight of the last 30 odd years!
So the Lescott saga continues, what’s the betting? Can’t see him not coming – pay back time for Kendall going back to them eh?
Hey, great response to Shindlers article in the Mail from Colin Savage (not to mention Alan's on the blog) , though Sue didn’t like the reference to the blonde?!
Anyway, the season is almost on us. Blackburn tomorrow, ooooh can't wait, here’s the It’s a Fix :

Their last promotion was in 2001, since then they won the League Cup in 2002, Most recent connections : Mark Hughes and Santa Cruz, Big name supporters : Wayne Hemingway (that bald headed architect bloke!) and Jack Straw.
Last season happy Sam took over from Paul ‘The Guvnor’ Ince, and steered them clear of relegation finishing in 15th place with 41 points, ironically 7 clear of Newcastle, could he have saved them? At home they won 6 drew 7 and lost 6.
Against City It was a Christmas ’Desmond’ at Ewood, two goals in the last few minutes pulling us back from two goals down. 25,200 (4694 City) At COMS in May it was a comfy 3-1 City win
Ewood Park's capacity: is 32,000 with 7,000 for City?
Our form at Blackburn : Since our promotion in 2002 we’ve had one win, in 03/04 - 3-2, 4 losses and two draws.
Comment : Wow, our first unveiling of all the new signings competitively, and they’ll be the first of many teams and manumirror reporters who want to see us fall flat on our arses. We mustn’t let them, and hope that Hughes can ram their taunts down their throats. Cruz is still injured.
Wind Ups : Small town in Burnley seems to be the best we can do, as Accrington doesn’t scan?
Groundwise: We’ll have the Darwen end again, where the ticket prices were sensible last season at £24.45. reflected with City’s support increased to over 4,000. This season, however, they’re £35 reflecting our new status, or it’s a rip off. Room on the hill?

STATS: 60 pre-war and 46 post war, make it our 107th league meeting and at Ewood p/w it’s:
Played 23 Won 4 drawn 2 Lost 17 (ugh!)
Wwtwtwshite? – Av’d 5,826 in ‘85/86.
Their laverage home attendance last season : 23,206
Away Day zine: ‘4,000 Holes’ if it’s still going.
Route: Various, all very rural. Post code BB2 4 JF
Parking: Car Parks but best on street, takes ages to get away.
Pubs: Fernhurst on Bolton Road, near the away end which will open early for City fans as the landlord is a Blue.
Also The Golden Cup, Bear Hotel, The Navigator, near the station.

Thursday, 13 August 2009

Colin Shindler

Great articled by fred Eyre in the MEN and Colin Savage in todays Mail on the above. Alan R has sent a piece in to KK, as has Lyndon Day. We thought it worth putting Alan's on the blog whilt it's still topical :

This, That and T’other
As I touched the button to “send” my last piece winging through the ether to KoK H.Q I thought that I would be able to relax for a few days at least. Then perhaps I could address some of those other interests that I pursue like writing the story of where and how I grew up as a child, or perhaps continue with my writings of my personal army. I had promised myself sometime ago that I would carry out these two tasks so that my son and daughters would have some idea of their old man’s early life but it is time consuming and I don’t need any distractions at the best of times. However the way the press is reporting events and stories concerning MCFC have once again got my hackles rising so much so that I have had to divert myself from the two previously mentioned interest’s to comment on an article in today’s Daily Mail (Mon 3rd August) by Colin Shindler of “Manchester United ruined my life” fame.
I read that book just after it was first published and in fact I still have the signed copy on my bookshelf. I enjoyed reading it at the time because lots of its contents referred to times and places, players and matches that have long been part of the memories that I have gathered over the years whilst following Manchester City Football Club. In addition it was good to get to know another person’s feeling for the club when we both came from much different backgrounds. He was brought up in a middle class Orthodox Jewish family in the leafy borough of Radcliffe, I was born and raised on the industrial east side of Manchester that is Droylsden. I, along with my mother and brother, lived with my grandparents in a working class terraced house. Colin was university educated whilst I went to Ashton Secondary Technical School. He attained a wonderful working life in films and television, whilst I did ok in the building trade and mechanical engineering. While it is true to say that our lives have followed vastly different paths with very little in common there has always been one common denominator and that is our love of Manchester City. Now it would seem that all that has changed.
Colin reminds us of those exciting days of Mercer and Allison, trophies, Wembley finals and the early 1970’s. He rightly points out the misguided policies of Peter Swales and Co which left this club financially impoverished for over twenty years. He mentions the 1990’s when our club was really a shambles while ‘nited were throwing enough money at their own problems to solve them. Colin wrote about the Gillingham final with David Bernstein as chairman, Joe Royle as manager and three promotions and two relegations in five years, Ali Bernarbia, Shaun Goater, Kevin Keegan and some of the dazzling football played although he didn’t mention that most of it had been played in the second tier of English football. He felt that the club had lost something when it moved from Maine Road to Eastlands and that is something that I totally agree with. No doubt the supporters of old had similar feelings when the club left Hyde Road for Maine Road. He comments that Stuart Pearce was no Joe Mercer which begs the question, “who could be?” He writes that Nicholas Aneka was no substitute for Francis Lee. My own thoughts on this is well maybe or maybe not, but he was certainly an improvement on Bobby Owen, Tony Cunningham, Bobby Shinton, Barry Conlon and a host of other fly by night characters we have endured over the years. And he condemns the sell out to Shinawatra and later to Sheik Mansour saying, “And now, when they run out of money, my beloved Manchester City took to the streets and lifted her skirt at every passing lecherous bloke with a five pound quid in his pocket.” Well some may say she wasn’t the first good girl to go astray when times got hard and there was no ‘bread on’ the table. He went on, “At least the Abu Dhabi lot have got money, but that’s all they have got. They’ve taken my love who Shinawatra turned into a whore, cloaked her in the finest of of silk dresses and doused her in the most fragrant of Arabian fragrances. I don’t recognise her any longer. She might look beautiful but she’s rotten at the core. I still love her. How could I not after all these years? The opposite of love is indifference and I’m certainly not indifferent to what happens at Manchester City.
Those earlier times that Colin refers to are indeed some of my best ever football memories but sadly times change and not always for the better. And the thing that has brought about that change is the Premiership and the money from Sky and the big four who have ensured that the majority of any monies are shared amongst themselves. It is the old case of the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer and City were certainly one of the latter. It is my belief that the club was in dire straits towards the end of John Wardle’s stewardship and only the intervention of Shinawatra prevented it from going under. Maybe his money was all smoke and mirrors but it did prevent the unthinkable from happening. Yes I was one who welcomed his intervention at the time but not being as well read politically as others I was unaware of the baggage that he brought with him. Equally I was just as relieved when the new owners bought him out and I would have thought that alone was enough to wipe the Shinawatra slate clean.
I no longer want my club to be everybody’s second club just because there’s a fair chance that their team will pick up points from us, I am brassed off at being known as the ‘unpredictable’s’, and I am tired of Stuart Hall and his references to ‘The Palace of Varieties.’ Before I shuffle off this mortal coil I want to watch a team that can compete with the best and at the highest level, entertaining its long suffering supporters as they deserve. If that means ‘whoring’ and throwing money around in the manner which others have set then so be it. It’s not nice but it is the world we all live in for the world of Joe Mercer is sadly just a memory.
Let’s make one thing clear. Colin Shindler is not the only one true love of Manchester City for over the years there have been many others and I count myself among them and she was my love before she was his. I’ve lost count of the number of times she has caused me pain but then again she has never failed to bring some sunshine back into my life. Mr Shindler,in days gone by the fact that you called my love a whore who is rotten at the core would have been enough for me to invite you to choose your weapon’ Then in the early hours of a misty morning we would have settled our differences as gentlemen. Now I just feel sad that a professed City supporter who is so well known in the media should see fit to express those views in the press which is more anti City than it ever was. Still you’re not the first and no doubt you will not be the last and at least Manchester United never ruined my life. Shalom Aleichem Colin.
Alan Rowbotham

Friday, 7 August 2009

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This week
I’ve read Shindlers article in the Mail, and as someone who has been shafted in the press a couple of times - they generally can’t get much right - and as I know Colin a little bit, I have a some sympathy, but not a lot. I disliked intensely the ‘Man united ruined my life’ title of that book – video of which was reviewed on the back page of KK 68 and I’ve never gone along with the “wish we were still in the old third division, and back at Maine Road” type of City fans.
Thaksin was a total embarrassment in my view but it was he who brought the Arabs in so some good came of that.
I think we need to define ‘the soul of the club’ Is it the owners or is it the fans or those running the club? You couldn’t get much better than an ex player or fan being in charge but that hasn’t worked out in the past for us. To me City will lose the soul of the club when we get 50,000 glory seekers like the rags do. I felt a bit like this when we had all those Thais at the games, fine if they stuck with it, but they’ve all since disappeared apparently.
So there you go. Any thoughts? Alan Rowbotham has sent a good piece in on the subject, which will go in the next KK.
So, up to Rangers, on Wednesday. Ex City player of the 50’s and Glasgow resident, John McTavish said he’d quite fancy it, so with a bit of help from Danny Wilson and St Bernard, we managed to get hold of a ticket and he attended the game with us. He thoroughly enjoyed it, and it was a good craic. We should do it every year, even though we lost to a last minute goal, surprise surprise! Shay Given was booed for being from the ROI, but they didn’t seem to mind Dunney, and Superman! Bellamy was booed for being ex Celtic. Thanks to Louise who used to write and sell for us for putting us up in Helensburgh for the night.
Celtic tomorrow, who we’ve previously played in friendlies in 1892/93 0-5 home, 0-1 away, 1894/95 0-0 home, 1895/96 3-2 home, 1901/02 2-1 home, 1902/03 1-0 home, 0-0 away, 1953/54 1-1 home, 1970/71 0-0, Hampden, 1992/93 1-3 in Dublin, and finally last season we played out a 1-1 draw at Parkhead, in the rain. They’ve always brought big support to Stretford and enjoy their visits down south so let’s hope there’s no funny business.
We did play a combined Celtic/Rangers X1at Maine Road in 1924/25, a 2-2 draw for Billy Meredith’s testimonia, so playing both teams within a few days is the closest we’ll get to that again! They’ve just won away in Moscow with Georgios scoring, so I hope he and Willo and Chris Killen get a sporting welcome from City fans. Time for a win City.

In response to Neil Shaw’s rag pal who didn’t like Franny’s challenge on John Aston that time, well that was the game where we had a goal disallowed for a City player being offside on the far touchline! Also the rag s were screaming for Aston to be substituted so it was no great loss when he went off, and they were all relived.

PS : Subs are £14 UK, £16 Euro and £18 elsewhere - awaiting a blog update!

Monday, 3 August 2009

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This week
Barnsley and a drizzly day. Applause for the passing of Bobby Robson – how DID we beat his Ipswich team in the semi of 1981?
Wasn’t too bothered about the game but we all knew we’d gift them a goal, but came back strongly with character to equalise. Martin P didn’t look happy though?
Still, a good start for the new zine.
Papers predictably had Chelea’s draw at Reading and Everton’s at Coventry as battling performances whilst ours was an embarrassing one!!
As for Moyes or Moyles whoever let’s not be too pedantic eh, we all know what’s meant, but he’s just fawning to the rags so he won’t be ruled out of being in the running as their next manager. Sucker.
Had a bad experience in the City store today. Whilst making a purchase the assistant told us proudly he supported united, and after I gave him a tirade we cancelled the sale. For FUCKS sake City.
I’ve e-mailed Garry (typical City) Cook so we’’ll see if heads will roll. Don’t even mention Century City!!!
Colin Shindler’s article in the Mail re “they’ve ripped the heart out of my club” has upset a few people. Before I make comment I’ll read it in full. Any views?

Well said Sparky

MH has put Fergie, Wenger and that other moaning bastard Moyes in their place today. Without naming names, he said that the reason some managers complain so much is that they were never successful as players and have therefore got a chip on their shoulders (or something very similar) The newspaper quickly pointed out that Fergie, Wenger and Moyes were all unsuccessful as players. MH certainly knows how to hit below the belt and clearly learned his street fighting ability from Ferguson. He certainly has a point, few ex players if any relish standing on the sidelines watching the game, they'd much rather be out there affecting the result with their playing ability. So it must be very frustrating to be a manager who never won a major trophy as a player seeing younger players doing just that. Sparky, you are growing in my estimation every week. Keep it up.
Someone else who has gone up in my estimation is Martin O'Neil who last week told the others to stop having a go at City for doing exactly what they had been doing for the last ten years. Interestingly, The Daily Express announced today that United have targeted a South American player and are planning on making a £30 million offer. Now what was it that Ferguson said a few weeks ago about a certain club spoiling football by offering crazy money for players?