Wednesday, 25 January 2012

WEDNESDAY
Beaten before we started. Last season at Anfield Mancini did the same and admitted he’d made a mistake. So what sort of a team was that he put out? Liverpool, at Anfield, are not Wolves or Birmingham or Arsenal’s 2nd team. We’ve missed a great chance to land a trophy and tonight proved we’re carrying too many passengers and the manager's team selection is suspect once again.
Dave

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  1. I fully agree with your comments Dave but dont you think this is typical City once again showing their true colours?
    Only for Joe Hart it could have been an embarassment and any doubts I had about Joey have disappeared now because his performance was world class.
    YES it was another missed opportunity where the wrong team was selected, in my opinion both Johnson and Aguero should have been on from the start with Clichy starting also, in fact with a five day break before the Everton game Mancini should have gone for broke and played his best available starting X1 but no he cocked it up again I'm afraid.
    Those passengers you talk about are probably the ones I think of myself ie Kolarov, Lescott, Dzeko, and apart from his goal De Jong, Nasri can perform we all know but he hasn't shown a lot yet since his move from Arsenal and Savic? well I dont want to make any rash comments on him just yet other than to say at the moment he is well out of his depth playing in the Premiership.
    Whats your opinion about the Everton game next week? We all know that Moyes will have them fired up because this game against City is one of their Cup Finals because they 'hate' City so it will be a very hard game. However winning there would be great and it would excorcise the demons that run through our heads making us fear that this season of ours is about to crumble, it is a must win game for me like most are now and the cynics are doubting our ability to be able to handle the pressure.
    I dont know if you feel the way I do about all this but there seems too many grey areas within the team what with the Tevez saga but with the Balotelli problem of us now all thinking "will he be sent off again this season?" add to this our defensive frailities and we all have to worry about how our season is going to pan out.
    Personally I cannot wait for Yaha to come back plus some warmer weather because players such as Nasri, Aguero, and Silva love playing when it is sunny, they look world beaters in actual fact whats your take on this?
    My final point is I think Mancini should now stop tinkering with his squad, play what he thinks is his strongest starting eleven and stick with it for the rest of the season and barring anymore dubious refereeing decisions I think we can win the title but as I say its down to what Mancini does now because in my opinion its a case of carry on tinkering and you will end up empty handed but play your strongest line up and there is a good chance you will end up a winner so ...... no more Savic, no more Kolarov,no more De Jong, utilise them from the bench. Unfortunately with Lescott there is no one else in his position unless you switch Richards and by doing that the team loses an attacking outlet.
    Whether we like it or not this is currently a blip but it could become a serious blip if Mancini become more braver and adventurous. How about this team : Hart - Richards - Lescott - Kompany - Clichy - Milner - Johnson - Silva - Barry - Nasri - Aguero 4-5-1 and when Balotelli is available revert to a 4-4-1-1 rotating Nasri with either Barry or Milner - JUST A THOUGHT DAVE--- regards tedk....

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  2. Dave, this team I have submitted has to accomodate Yaya Toure so when he comes back then its a straight swop for Milner or Barry

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  3. Off the topic Dave, I was looking at your ad in the latest kotk regarding the charity night at Bernard Mannings club, will you be going because we are considering attending, dont know for certain but it looks like it could be a great night.

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  4. Yep, an opportunity thrown away, mainly in the first leg, but the issues last night could have been avoided. The initial set up seemed purely to protect Savic who should not have played. I know Onuoha is off, but that did not stop us utilizing him last night. The one thing Zab is not is a wing back, as that plays into his weaknesses and takes away from his strengths. Second half the balance was better but surely Milner for Nasri in such a physical game.
    Adam J is becoming an issue, last season he won a few penalties by taking people on, this season he will only try one thing which defences have wised up to. Why not try him on the left for a few games to get some supply into Dzeko?

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  5. Is it me or are we starting to sound like United fans? Defending the indefensible and blaming everyone, but ourselves.
    Liverpool deserved to win because they wanted it more. We had too many players suspended, one of which was unlucky, but the other was due to a moment of petulant stupidity, regardless of whether Howard Webb saw or didn't see the incident.
    Whether Scott Parker should have already been dismissed is another matter.

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  6. I agree with part of what you say Neil, but too many decisions are going against us to make even a monk suspicious. Dowd didn't help last night trying to show that Richards hands were up in the air when TV replays quite clearly showed the one that was inthe air was not the one that the ball struck.

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  7. Agreed, but Spurs were equally robbed at Stoke and looking at the League table, it's probably a good job. Arsenal had some poor decisions when they lost at Fulham and Swansea.
    The decision not to rescind the Kompany Red Card was disgraceful, but we can't let it ruin our Season. That applies to Mancini as well

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    1. I know what you mean Neil but all these poor decisions that affect other teams never happen to United it seems well we all know they dont.
      I personally think the Kompany sending off has already disrupted our season and at the end of the day it is Mancini's job to eradicate this away from our players minds. However the manner of which he is selecting the team certainly doesn't help our cause at all.
      The Everton game now represents a massive challenge to our wilting players where I honestly think it is a must win game.The big question is has Mancini got the ability to lift our players in the face of such injustices but he really does need to be more braver and clever with the line ups he chooses to utilise.
      The bottom line is would you consider this season as a big big failure if our team dont improve on last season's acheivemements?

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  8. It sounds defeatist, but I did tell my son some three months ago, that if we finish 2nd this season, then I regard it as progression. We have time on our side as I honestly believe that this recession is going to be with us for ten years. We will be the only club in the country and most of Europe with money to spend FFP or not. I agree Neil that every club has bad decisions go against them at some point, but there seems to be an disproportionate ammount going against us. What's more it's almost as though referees and the media are laughing at us because some of the decisions are so blatently wrong but and they know WE know what's happening, but we can't do anything about it. So I guess in answer to your original question, yes we are becomming like United fans, but with a genuine grievence, whereas United fans see themselves as victims even when they are in the wrong. (Rooney swearing down the camera, Cantona's kung fu attack were both disgraceful incidents, yet when the FA handed out punishment Utd fans thought they were being picked on)

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  9. What also irritated me about last night was the appalling lack of urgency when we were leading 2-1. Slow pass after slow pass until we eventually conceded a daft throw in from which Liverpool equalized. Those tactics reminded me of the draw at Stoke last season and are doomed to failure against teams like Liverpool who play a high pressing game.
    To be fair to United they could have scored six at Arsenal last Sunday, even allowing for the twenty minutes when Arsenal dominated. In contrast I suspect that City will arrive at Everton, Villa, Stoke and Arsenal with the intention of sneaking a result and consequnetly end up dropping points.

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    1. eeeerrrrmmmm who's been a naughty boy then?

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  11. Nothing that exciting I'm afraid. My previous message was posted twice in error.

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  12. Lol - - - - I agree with your gripe about our passing being too slow, yes the tempo needs speeding up. Oddly enough when I recently watched a training session the passing was very fast, sharp and accurate and a slow tempo gives the other team a chance to regroup and read our game too easily. Barca are a prime example of fast crisp passing it opens defences like a can of peas.
    The incident you refer to when Bellamy scored I could haved strangled Lescott because he carelesly mis kicked a clearence and we lost possession the ball was switched very quickly to the edghe of the aarea where a one two unlocked us and Bellers scored LESCOTT the culprit.
    I actually fear that unless the tempo is increased it gets harder and harder to break defences down with recent games being prime examples. I honmestly believe we are good enough to win the title but we have to tighten the bolts down at the back and as I say speed our tempo up and after that well only the officials will be able to stop us....

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  13. It is noticeable how much slower our build up is and there is still an atempt to pass the ball around, but it is slow and usually sideways and backwards giving the opposition far too much time to get back. Is it a lack of confidence because the way we played the ball around earlier in the season was frightening to watch let alone play against

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  14. For me, Nasri (with the exception of poor old Savic, who is woefully exposed) is the big disappointment. He's forever pedalling back when he should be going forward, and for a supposedly creative player doesn't do anywhere near enough. Also agree that Lescott (though slightly improved till very recently) is a bit of a liability. We should be running away with the lead in what is a very mediocre season for the teams below us. But at least they are below us! Cheers

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  15. Lescott is coming in for a lot of stick here. When he has been one of our most consistant performers all season. Whenever he is paired with Kompany we look solid. But when either one is missing, and Kolo Toure or Savic step in, then we look all over the place. To single out Lescott is unfair, take a long hard look at Kolorov if you want to blame anybody, he's appeared in nearly all of our bad results (Europe, FA Cup, League Cup).

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  16. Must agree that Jo Lo has been mainly good this season. At least when Kolo comes back he should be fairly match fit, but we do need to be looking at options other than Savic who's confidence must be totally shot. Samba at Blackburn may be worth a look at for the rest of the season perhaps?
    We've got Tevez till the summer now, wonder what the various parties are going to do about this situation. Ball's in Tevez and his advisers court at the moment.

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  17. My nine year old grandson has just asked me who signed Savic and Kolarov, I replied Roberto Mancini of cours, he answered back "well Mr Mansour should sack him" NOT GUILTY it was Dylan not me honest to god.... however he maybe just has a point.
    When I was nine I used to hear my Dad moaning how bad Joe Hayes was I never took into account how poor Les Mcdowall was to some City fans however he did take our club to two FA Cup Finals so he couldn't have been that bad...

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  18. Fantastic to see the blog back in full swing - and with some top posts. Hopefully Steve will make a comeback soon.

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  19. Yes, it's good to be able to post air our frustrations again Glyn. Regarding Tevez, has anyone ever considered the carrot approach with him? Tell him if he stays and helps us win the PL, he can leave for a cut price fee of say £10 million to Corinthians at the end of the season. The deal is OBNLY if we win the PL, which should give him quite an incentive to play out of his skin

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  20. Watched Sunday Supplement through my fingers this morning, expecting a City piss-take after watching the smarmy Jeff Stelling and his cronies yesterday. What a pleasant surprise then to find there was nothing but positive comment on us. Anyone agree with me that Jonathan Northcroft (or something like that) is a fair journalist who usually talks much sense?

    Everyone seemed to believe there will be a last-minute departure for Tevez but if there isn't, he will be returning to the club to face further disciplinary procedings. I must admit that I'm now wavering a little here, purely because I'm losing faith with Dzeko and fear for our title challenge. If Tevez were prepared to publicly apologise and commit to the cause, I think I'd give him another chance. I do still believe if we'd had Aguero and Tevez as our main strike force all season we'd have been unasailable.

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    1. Glyn, regarding Jeff Stelling, yes I too think he is a smarmy so and so but some time ago I heard a very interesting story about him.
      As you know he is the Presenter of Channel 4 countdown and a friend of friend was at Granada TV watching the programme being recorded. During one of the intervals which by the way they record three editions of the show in one session thus making the show about three weeks in front if you get my drift. however this chap my friend knows challenged Jeff Stelling about the manner of which he comes across to us all as another anti City numpty and asked him to explain why he seems to dislike MCFC, he indicated that he was only the messenger and suggested it was the producer who writes the script not him. Amazing isn't it dont some of these pundits or whoever know their own mind do they come out with a load of garbage because the producer has written it in their script? Is this the case with the morons at 606 or 5 live sport, is it the case with ITV Sport too, or is it the same with all these football programes on the radio and the Television all joining in the anti Man City agenda? are they all a bunch of cowards who voice someone elses opinion borne out of childish hatred towards Man City by yes the coward of a producer giving the YES men bullets to fire? it looks this way dosen't it?
      Of course we may all be paranoid after years and years of adversity supporting City but then again NO WE AINT! there are too many coincidences, too many inconsistences, and far too many people green with envy trying their damned best to derail our team doing their best to become the biggest and best football club in Europe, they just cannot handle it so they all get together and form an agenda against us and just in the last five weeks the proof is solid as a rock..... When will they lay off us? Only God knows!

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    2. Cheers Ted, that's so pathetic eh.

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  21. I fully agree with both comments above with regards to Tevez as the emphasis would be on what's best for City's interests. Surely it should even penetrate Tevez's pea brain and his appalling agents that for him to leave on a high note is in everyone's best interests? However, I do feel that Roberto would need a lot of convincing.
    If he does report back after 31 Jan, the other issue is this playing for 10% of the game time to avoid City being in breach of restriction of trade. He could be flung into the Europa league games to get round this, but what if we then lose to Porto?
    Apparently we were offered Andy Carroll for Tevez from Liverpool! At least Dzeko still scores when out of sorts,

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  22. Do many other City fear like I do the Tevez saga will ultimately cost us the title because it has surely become disruptive in as much our players are getting 'naffed' off with it all?
    Furthermore on top of this the agenda that definately exists against us!

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  23. Fully agree Ted. If we lose the title it will be down to Tevez, not just for the disruption he has brought to the club but for the fact that we thought we had four top strikers but thanks to him going AWOL, we have three and in reality we have two as Dzeko seems to have lost his early season form. I read this morning that McLeish wants V Pesrsie charged following an elbow to one of his players in the cup tie. Talksport carried the story for a while but you got the distinct impression that neither of the two presenters wanted to dwell on it the same way they did NDJ's incident and Balotelli's "stamp" If this story dies a slow death then it will confirm my felings that we are being targeted.

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  24. I agree too. Tony is also spot on about the lack of appetite to discuss transgressions by media darlings such as RVP. The other week when I saw a recording of the 3rd round cup tie I'm sure Roy Keane said Komps' dismissal was correct. How come then, that yesterday when a Middleborough player made a very nasty tackle did he disagree with Andy Townsend and talk about it being a mans game? Why didn't that idiot Adrian Chiles pull him up for his hypocrossy?

    Yesterday I heard that City are to meet with the FA to discuss inconsistencies. I think this would be a good thing. Apart from so many recent events, I keep thinking back to the FA Cup final, beamed all over the world and the forearm smash by Huth on Balotelli. JUST IMAGINE the furore had that been the other way around. Balotelli would probably still be serving his retrospective ban! Has anyone ever heard why there was no action? Presumably because we won the match and didn't raise the kind of fuss that everyone does when it is one of our players!

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    1. The conspiracy theories don’t add up, but the inconsistency of referees, and the fact that City are currently on the rough end of that, does. (The last paragraph of Stuart Brennan's article last night)
      If Brennan the RAG think the conspiracy theories dont add up can he please take the time out to consider Ashley Cole's two contencious yellow cards last night for Chelsea against Swansea which means now he misses Chelsea's key game against United this weeekend? OH I see he was if available up against United's main threat Valencia eeerrrmmm a slight hint of conspiracy here me thinks!
      Furthermore Glyn where did you get this story about City having a meeting with the FA regarding the officials and their inconsistincies from? If it was true in which I strongly doubt so heaven knows where the story came from I dont know perhaps an issue of Billy Liars comic or whatever, bizzare that one, odd if you ask me!
      The bottom line is that we all know Stuart Brennan is a 'RAG' and he isn't going to change his colours because he now reports on the City matches its simply now like last night he gets a sadistic kick out of writing about a game where City have lost and had he still been covering United's games he would have been screaming from the rooftops about YES last nights disgraceful performance of Walton a so called PL referee where this now obvious agenda against City gathered more ground, pathetic isn't it Glyn and I honestly think now we can all stop dreaming about our team winninhg the title because of very suspicious decisions in games where City are involved?

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    2. Hi Ted, it was on Sky's 'Sunday Supplement' at the weekend. They said the club are concerned about interpretations and would be seeking clarification from the FA and perhaps trying to get referees to come in and speak to the players.

      I agree last nights ref was apalling - reminded me of the one in charge of the Wolves home game, where he let our opponents off with everything and booked our players for their first (trivial) offence. You just know if one of ours had made that Drenthe challenge (on Richards) he'd have seen red, don't you? I think that's why Mancini took Lescott off as he would probably have received a 2nd yellow for his next tackle!

      As per Gary Neville though, I don't have a problem with Stuart Brennan. I think his reporting has been quite fair.

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  25. COME ON CITY SEND OUT A MASSIVE STATEMENT TONIGHT AT EVERTON LETTING THE REST OF THE PL THAT WE DONT INTEND LETTING TOP SPOT SLIP AWAY.
    OUR TEAM HAVE TO COMPETE WITH EVERTON IN AS MUCH NOT TO BE INTIMIDATED BY MOYES BULLY BOY TACTICS AND I AM SURE THEY WILL COME AWAY WITH ALL THREE POINTS.

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  26. Carlos Tevez has appealed to the Premier League over Manchester City's decision to fine him six weeks' wages.

    Tevez was docked what amounts to around £1.2 million after being charged with gross misconduct in December, and earlier this month lost an appeal against the charge in front of members of the club's board.

    The punishment arises from Tevez's decision to leave the country and return to Argentina, following the fallout from his refusal to warm-up during the Champions League game against Bayern Munich in September.

    The Argentina international still has the option to appeal to the Premier League, however - an avenue that saw a prior fine of six weeks' wages for breach of contract reduced to just two - and has now decided to go down that route.

    Although it is not yet clear when the league hearing will take place, Tevez has reportedly lost around £9.3m as a result of his antics to date.

    City are eager to offload the former West Ham and Manchester United forward in the current transfer window, although it appears he will remain at the Etihad Stadium until at least the summer - after proposed deals with AC Milan, Inter Milan and Paris Saint Germain all appeared to fall through.
    IS THIS THE PRIME REASON OUR TEAM HAS HIT A BAD PATCH OF FORM I WONDER BECAUSE LAST NIGHT I DETECTED THE BODY LANGUAGE OF SEVERAL OF OUR PLAYERS WHICH SUGGESTED THEY NO LONGER COULDN'T CARE LESS!

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