Wednesday, 31 October 2012

Bullshit theories

It was Lescott at Chelsea and Micah and Rodwell ball to hand at Liverpool. I think Matt should be more specific about our 'bullshit conspiracy theories.'.Didn't Neil identify a few factual ones a few posts ago?

Europe, Holby and stuff

There seems to be a deliberate misunderstand re Europe and the Chimps league. It's not just about winning the thing but also about progressing to quarter, semi and finals.
Our record in this respect is not good both in UEFA, Europa and the Chimps league. But we did win in Europe at the second time of asking in !970.
Another thing "it's harder to retain the league than win it"? Well it took us from 1894 to 1937 to win it. Then it took 31 years to either retain it or win it, then another 44 years to either win it or retain it, unless you can only retain it the year after you win it? Am I making sense?
Anyway, good to see Charlie back in Holby - I remember  mentioning him getting shot once in an early KK. Also if Chantelle had gone out, I wouldn't watch it again!

Tuesday, 30 October 2012

Rags apologist

Anyone seen Mike Walters' (obviously under instructions from Fergie) article in todays manumirror slagging off twitter posters adding 'don't let the facts spoil a good lynching'. He then goes on to say  Clattenburg's record shows he's not a closet red. Who's he trying to kid. He misses of course the pen we should've had at the Swamp last year and doesn't clarify Bellamy's sending off at Bolton when he was clearly fouled but given a second yellow for supposedly diving.
We've only lost 2 under Clattenburg but hell he's given us little. Let's hope we've seen the back of him.
Just got KK201 to the printers and I'm knackered, thanks for all your stuff,
Reading 4 Arse 0, hope they pick uop for the weekend!

Aggressive walking

Elby, sorry, it was Brian Coddington at Bournemouth re Kevin Horlock! Check out your Us and Them book page 21 (every City fan should have one!)

Sunday, 28 October 2012

Chelsea v.s Mark Clattenberg

A couple of weeks ago, I sent in my regular contribution to the King of the Kippaxand I wrote the following paragraph.

"A few issues ago, I argued that this season united wouldn’t benefit from and we couldn’t be the victims of so many dodgy refereeing decisions as last term. Eight games in and it seems I was wrong. They are still winning games they don't deserve to and winning penalties that shouldn't be. Howard Webb made sure that Robin van Persie wasn’t given a retrospective ban for his elbow in the face of Newcastle’s Cabaye and failed to give Newcastle a goal when replays showed the ball had crossed the line. Had it been Balotelli doing the elbowing, we all know it would have been a different ending. If Chelsea last the pace, expect to see some dodgy decision given against them too"

As soon as I heard that Clattenberg was the referee for today's game, the first time he's refereed a united game since sending off Crappy Evans, I knew he'd give united some dodgy decisions. Whilst they were 2-0 up, he must have thought that he could get away without making it too obvious, but when Chelsea pulled it back to 2-2, he had to act and did so within minutes. I have to say that one dubious and one ridiculous sending off and allowing an offside goal to stand is a little too obvious, so expect Chelsea to get the decisions against us in a couple of weeks. This will do two things, 1) It will pacify Chelsea fans after being mugged today and 2) It will help united stay ahead of us. God help us in this seasons derbies.

Let's be honest, the game is bent both at home and in Europe and I understand why. Manchester united bring in much needed revenue and are the PL's biggest name. It would be unthinkable that they go the same way as Liverpool. that applies also in Europe along with Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Friday, 26 October 2012


Disappointing result in Amsterdam, let’s hope the dosy sods can bounce back against Swansea, here’s the It’s a Fix extract/update :  

Second season back in the Prem. No trophies. Recent connection is Scott Sinclair. 17th League meeting.

Last season : At The Etihad in August on the opening day of our season on a Monday night it was a 4-0 win for the Blues. New boys Swansea played well until Dzeko opened the scoring (57) then debut boy Aguero (68) made it 2, Silva added the third (71) and Aguero completed the rout (90) with a pearler to cap a fine debut. Best since Trevor F in 1981 at Stoke, probably. Crowd was 46,802 with 2785 Jacks.
Different story at The Liberty in March City going down in a lack lustre performance to a Moore goal in the 83rd minute, though Micah had a late goal disallowed. Crowd was  20,510 with 2032 shell shocked Blues, who thought we’d blown it.

This season so far : They’re currently in 10th place  with 11 points after 8 games and 1 win 0 draws and 2 losses away from home.
In the Capital One Cup they beat Barnsley 3-1 at home in the 2nd rd, Crawley 3-2 away in the 3rd round and face Liverpool away in the 4th rd.

Form at home to Swansea : Pretty good, actually, though last season was our first meeting since 1983/84. First meetings were in 1926/27 and there’s been eleven meetings, with 9 City wins, one draw and one loss (2-1 in 1950/51)

Comment : Michael Laudrup took over in the summer and seems to be carrying on from where Brendan Rodgers left off. No significantly sounding buys but they lost Joe Allen and Scott Sinclair came to us, of course.
Must win.

WWTWTWshite : Averaged 3,367 in 1991/92.
Average home attendance this season: 20,424

We're putting KK 201 together at the mo in a frantic weekend so thanks for all the contributions.

Monday, 22 October 2012

Happy Birthday Bert


Happy Birthday Bert, 89 years young today


Tomorrow we’re off to Amsterdam, here’s the It’s A Fix extract :


Ajax are named after the legendary Greek hero, and have various nicknames including :
The sons of the Gods
The Jews
The Amsterdammers
The Lancers
They were formed in 1900 and found early success with Englishman Jack Reynolds at the helm winning 5 titles in the thirties.
Pro football was allowed in Holland in the 50’s when Ajax picked up more trophies.
They came to European prominence in the 70’s winning the European Cup in 1971, 72 and 73 with Cruyff starring and won it again in 1995 after winning the Uefa Cup in 1992
In total they’ve won 31 titles, 18 Cups, 4 European Cups, one Cup Winners’ Cup, and one UEFA Cup.
They adopted their current logo in 1928, this was updated in 1990 being drawn with 11 lines which represent 11 footballers.
Groundwise they played at the De Meer stadium capacity 29,500, though big games were played at the 60,000 capacity Olympic stadium. The ground was in the Jewish neighbourhood of Amsterdam and St David’s flags were a feature of their support plus Hava Nagila was a terrace chant. This, however, caused a negative reaction from away fans (as per Spurs) and the Jewish connections were discouraged by the club in the 2000’s.
Ajax moved to the Amsterdam Arena in 1996, capacity 52,342, costing 134 M euros, (De Meer sold to the council) a state of the art stadium with a retractable roof. Pitch problems now seem to be resolved.
Amsterdam Arena Capacity : 52,342 (3,000 for City)

They play in white shirts with a red vertical broad stripe and white shorts.
Last season they gave the rags a footballing lesson whilst mid table and John Guidetti scored a hat trick against them whilst on loan with Feyenoord.
They then shot up the table to finish as Champs.
This season after 9 games they’re 4th with 17 points and they drew 3-3 at Heracles on Sunday.
They lost their first Group D game 1-0 at Borussia Dortmund, and also 4-1 at home to Real Madrid
After they beat Liverpool in a European game at the next Derby Everton fans threw 100’s of Ajax cleaner cans onto the pitch before the match.
City played Ajax in friendlies in 1968/69 winning 3-0 at Maine Road (we wiped the floor with them!) and drew 3-3 in Holland in 1969/70 when Cruyff was the bad boy of Dutch football.
Main City connections : Gio Kinkladze, Nigel de Jong

Sunday, 21 October 2012

West brom and stuff

This week and West Brom
Draw for England in Poland after the farce of the previous day when despite the forecast of rain they didn’t close the roof and torrential rain caused the game to be called off. Joe admitted he was at fault for the goal – imagine a rag ever admitting to a mistake. No wonder….. Roy Keane reckons he’s too cocky, but why an ex rag is employed to make comments is beyond belief as we all know, apart from Gary Neville who’s surprised us all, they totally fail to be objective. Goalies HAVE to be cocky otherwise they’ll get walked all over asper  De Gea..
Incidentally can I just remind everyone of when I was on Blue Tuesday a few years ago at Christmas and suggested that we should bring Joe Hart back from Birmingham to replace Shay Given and was howled down by Nigel Gleghorn and about 15 others!
Disgraceful scenes in Serbia with the detestable monkey chanting aimed at England’s black players and FIFA inevitably blaming the English. 
The John Terry saga is now finally over after a year and whilst the punishment may not be right the publicity it’s received has got the message over and we should move on. I don’t hear any racist chants at City or any other grounds these days, and when the Munich song is aired it’s usually shouted down by Blues. I’m surprised that Ferdinand and co are not supporting the Kick It Out Campaign and I’d like to hear the case against because they’ve done great work over the years.
I was asked to go on 5Live for a debate on ticket pricing but they didn’t confirm as they said they would and rang my mobile instead of the landline on the Thursday so I, and they, missed out  apart from a one liner at the end of the show, which was disappointing.
Worryingly, David Gill is now vice Chair of the FA. How has that happened, as rarely a rag, and I’ve met them from the top to the bottom, as I’ve already stated, can be objective.
So to West Brom, and a fine October day. Good run down but normal car park now for pass holders only. Where were you when you were shite?
Token selling of the last few KK’s, just waited for the Albion fan who’s bought every issue we’ve sold there, and duly obliged today. Contrast that with Nigel Gregory who tells me what a shite fanzine it is and only buys it cos he’s a collector of all things City.
As for the game it didn’t look promising with Clatt as referee, and he didn’t disappoint, sending Milner off, after Vinny  boobed, which actually was the right decision. Barry dithered in the second half and Albion broke away to score a very soft one. I still thought we could do it and the subs worked a treat and Dzeko saved our bacon again, just as I told the bloke next to me that I’d settle for a draw! However we still have the knack to panic, Lukaku causing probs, but we held on somehow with stout defending.
 Amusing Albion fan serenaded us with a "you're not very good" song  which gave us a smile as "we've won the league we've won the cup, we've won in Europe too.....
Good run home, and we looked forward to MOTD to see the penalty incident but guess what? Not shown. So it’s now two years since our last away penalty, at Wolves. Funnily enogh we've only lost 2 games when Clatt's refereed us! L

Friday, 19 October 2012


This week we've had the farce in Poland, England drawing 1-1 with a Joe - De Gea type boob. He held his hands up - have you EVER known a rag player admit a mistake? Just a reminder that the next deadline is next Thursday latest
Anyway tomorow it's West Brom, looking forward to resuming Saturday football . Here's the it's A fix extract  :

The Baggies celebrate their second season in the Prem (this time) Trophyless now since winning the F A Cup in 1968, Recent connection:  Ishmael Miller (now at Forest) 131st League meeting

Last season : At The Hawthorns in December it was a 0-0 draw, Mario’s goal being wrongly disallowed for offside, Crowd was  25, 938 with 2560 Blues and the home crowd were delighted with the result also gloating at the rags win.
At the Etihad in April it was that marvellous night when we won 4-0 Aguero (6, 44) Silva ( Tevez (64) and the over confident rags lost 1-0 at Wigan. Crowd was 46,736 with 957 Baggies

They’re currently in 6th place with 14 points from 7 games and 4 wins 0 draws and 0 losses at home.
In the Capital One Cup they won 4-2 at Yeovil but lost 2-1 to Liverpool at home in the 3rd rd.

Comment : Steve Clarke took over after Woy jumped ship to manage the three Lions. He’s had a good start and it’ll be a tough test for the Champs today though it’s doubtful that they’ll shut up shop like last season.
There’s been a few ins and outs but no big names although Ben Foster (boo) has joined from Birmingham and Paul Scharner has left.

Our League form down there isn’t too good recently, last season’s draw followed a win in 2010/11 after three losses, 1-2, 0-2, 1-2. after the 2-1 win in 2002/03.
Last 5: it’s : DWLLLW

Ground is the same as on our last visit, plenty of local car parks and it’s dead handy to the M5 from the A41.
Past visits have been uncomfortable with over officious stewards, and long queues at the few opened turnstiles.  City fans were still made to walk all round the ground to get back to the cars parked on the main stand side. Bit different from COMS, where away fans get priority.
Tickets are £40
Post code is : B71 4LF
WWTWTWShite? Crowds were down to an average of 9,134 in 1986/87, this season they’re averaging 24,788.

The Hawthorns


Capacity: 28,003 (1500? For City

Wednesday, 17 October 2012

Anniversaries etc

First did you see Neil Leigh’s article in Friday’s MUEN referring to Bobby Charlton as England’s greatest footballer? I’m not sure that even Bob would go along with that one. No wonder…..
It’s anniversary time. 50 years since Sue and I met! 50 years since Love Me Do. Who can forget The Beatles’ appearance on Gay Byrne’s People and Places? Clad in leather jackets singing that song which included Lennon on the harmonica, which was fairly unusual at the time, and Johnboy acting daft at the end of the song. No one did that and we soon realised that the boys were to  changed EVERYTHING after that. But do you know what? Not one of them could kick a football. Check out your KK 3 for the review of their Manc concert with Roy Orb.
Stones are doing a 50th anniversary tour. Can they top Shine a Light? Emmerdale’s done 40 years. James Bond’s 50, hey remember Ursula Andress in Dr No? Question in my General Studies exam in about 1965 “will James Bond still be as popular in 5 years time?” I answered yes, and who knows, he might even get the MBE (as the Beatles had!) I passed!
Internationalsl tonight. Toure bros just involved in a riot v Senegal but are through to the finals in January again. Silva’s injured playing for Spain and Poland excelled themselves by forgetting to shut the roof, doh! So we could have some tired lads for Saturday if it’s played tomorrow.

Saturday, 13 October 2012


Drove down to South Wales, and found ourselves being part of the Tartan Army. Last time this happened was in 1977 when I was driving down from Irvine to(then)  home in Conisbrough. That was the game when they pinched our goalposts, I think I wrote about it in an early KK.
Fancied the game if it had been on the Saturday, but not on a Friday night after a tiring and tedious drive. The A449 (?) from the M50 to the M4 must be the worst in the country for roadworks without anything actually happening.
England scraped past San Marino 5-0 and I have to admit that Welbeck’s backheel, Law style, was class. Joe Hart had less to do than in the 6-1! Wales beat Scotland 2-1 and Mario has flu.
Apparently rag apologist Hugh McIlvanney had a pop at City on the “we’ve spent money” theme in last week’s Times. You’d expect better from an ex top journo. He did write a book with Fergie and I could be wrong but wasn’t his son a rag hoolie who wrote a book on the subject then became an opera singer, or am I getting mixed up with someone else? No matter he’s still a twat.
Oh and we’ve finally got KK 200 on Kindle – sorry about the delay, due to illness. Worth waiting for, because you're worth it.

Thursday, 11 October 2012

Points of Blue and stuff

Points Of Blue
Attended on Tuesday night, many topics discussed including – Tickets, Manc magazine demise, programme, season cards, Cup scheme problems, away fans in City areas for Euro games, police brutality in Madrid, Apps, ladies loos in City square, PA System noise levels, Kitbag/City store, supporters club ticket allocation, F A Cup not Champions publicity on City store adverts, Trams to the Etihad, fans on pitch after QPR game last May, Ajax away ticket situation, and FFP - astounded to hear that the club agree with it and aim to comply so prepare for further shit signings in January and next summer.  We await the official minutes which should make interesting reading, but frankly everything was “being looked into” or “the right people weren’t present” so a bit of a waste of space really.
However the KOTK team did win the quiz at the Bull’s Head later on though Colin S wasn’t embarrassed to answer an Adam Ant question, but your Ed was in not knowing Roy Orbison’s middle name - Kelton!!
Bolton have sacked Owen Coyle who didn’t half talk a good talk even reckoning they played well in the 2-0 defeat at City last season.
International weekend this week. Family illness has caused the KK 200 Kindle to be delayed (and we’ve not many paper copies left) so apologies again to North Bury Blues for the Ed being unable to attend this Friday’s meeting due to aforementioned illness.
Today I’ve been delivering Us and Them books  to the Urmston bookshop, Chorlton Bookshop and Thackerays in Denton.

Monday, 8 October 2012

Didn’t watch the match, just the highlights. Rag ref Howard Webb so you knew they’d get marginal decisions. Ball over the line for a Newcy goal! Retrospective ban for RVP, no chance, don’t make me laugh. Cleverley said he meant his goal, but you know what lying bastards those rags are.

Sunday, 7 October 2012

Sunderland reflection

Brian Reade’s theme in the manumirror, was, of course, you don’t need money to get success, as Dortmund showed on Wednesday.
You’d have thought he might have done a piece on his beloved Liverpool’s woeful mid-week performance. Stick to politics Brian, bitter red.
Decent sunny day for a change and pure entertainment from City. We sold well so thanks to everyone for supporting us over the years and particularly on this issue.
Lee Probert didn’t give us much and MOTD missed Micah’s overhead and the blatant foul in the box on Ya-Ya. As for Mario, I despair.
Press angle now seems to be, after we’ve won the Cup and the League, that you can’t ‘buy’ the European Cup!
We’ll see.
A week off for us fans as it’s the International break, Points of Blue on Tuesday night, and next game is at West Brom in 2 weeks time, then Ajax and Swansea.
Rags at Newcastle today, can the Geordies repeat last season’s win? Why not? Hmmmm

Friday, 5 October 2012


Tomorrow it’s Sunderland at home, here’s the It’s a Fix extract:
Promoted in 2007, so this is their 6th season in the Prem. (this time!) Last Pot F A Cup 1973. Most recent connection : Adam Johnson. 123rd  league meeting

Last season :  At the SOL on New Year’s Day we battered them all game but they scored in the last minute through Dong Won who was marginally offside – fair enough but not a consistent decision after City’s previous disallowed goal at West Brom. Crowd was 40,625 (2101 Blues – reduced allocation)
At The Etihad whoops we looked to be on the blink. Larsson put them ahead (31) Mario equalised (43Pen) but we let Bendtner put them ahead again (45).Things then went from bad to worse Larsson making it 3-1 (55) but after loan signing Pizzarro* came on Mario struck again (85) and Kolarov equalised (86) to get us out of jail. Crowd was 47,007 (1,384 Mackems) a young Blue was heard on his mobile to his rag mate coming out of the ground  saying “no I’m not conceding the title” – then we lost at Arsenal!   

This season so far : They’re in 13th place with 7 points from 7 games and 0 wins 3 draws and 0 losses away from home.
In the Capital One Cup they beat Morecambe 2-0 at home, beat MK Dons 2-0 away in the 3rd rd. and play ‘Boro at home in the 4th.

Comment : Martin O’Neill’s summer dealings included
Cuellar, Rose, Saha, Johnson and on fire Stephen Fletcher, with Gordon and Richardson the main departees.
We were given a bit of a shock here last season so hopefully today we’ll recover our usual home form v the Black Cats. They lost to the rags on the last day of last season which was a bit annoying, but their fans celebrations on our behalf made up for it!
Oh, and they’re sponsored by Tombola, those of the most annoying adverts that used to be in the middle of Emmerdale, now surpassed by DH bloody L.

At home to Sunderland Last season’s draw made it seven wins and a draw out of the last eight.

WTWTWShite : Avd 13,601 in 86/87, and this season their average home att. is 38,859..

Thursday, 4 October 2012


Forgot to mention that I watched Escape to Victory on Monday night on TV! Anyone else (apart from Mike Summerbee!)
Sad to hear about Jimmy Savile. Sue’s mate, who was about 16, and a bit promiscuous, was invited by him in the mid 60’s to help decorate his new flat in Broughton (I think). Oh yeah?
When she got there he said “there’s a brush and some paint, get on with it”. At the end of the day he lectured her on why she shouldn’t accept invitations like his in future. I’m not trying to make light of things but that’s a story we’ve carried with us for years.
On to last night. We were chased up the car park to our usual spot by a steward with a southern accent who, as a new boy, questioned our credentials. Think I convinced him so we shouldn’t have any hassle on Saturday.  Those bags are bloody heavy to carry to our selling spots.
Bloody rain again.
Our seats for tonight were in block 204 East stand. Quite a few Dortmund fans there, who were well behaved until they scored, but it has to be said that we’re not used to having away fans amongst us, and, could be a situation for trouble at future games.
Met Per and his lovely missus from the Scandinavian Blues branch before the game.  He handed over the 100th edition of their supporters club magazine, a superb production, though almost all in Scandinavian.
On to the programme. It included a piece on Mark E Smith from The Fall which I’ve already read in the old Manc magazine. What the fuck is going on here?
As for the game, good debate already, on the blog. Surely Marwood should go for the dire summer signings? Mancini having to bring Rodwell on in a game like this instead of a marquee signing, was incompetence personified.
If it’s any consolation Tony, I had the trots but just made it home. I’m sure you wanted to know that?.  
Picked up the latest Backpass magazine at the Trafford Centre today, good piece on Buzzer, plus a review of
Gary’s Manchester the City Years book launch, with a kind mention of KK as ‘the splendidly durable King Of The Kippax’ fanzine.
That’s all for now folks

Wednesday, 3 October 2012

Fulham and Dortmund

Fulham, it was the usual good experience. Nice day, decent fans – I don’t get spat at or told to stick it up my a*se, and the Fulham fans were OK too! Stewards were fine and we sold the new zine, KK200, well. On top of that we got the result, despite Halsey, who’s given us nowt since Gillingham, two years now since we got an away penalty, at Wolves. The rags have had two in the last two games. We stayed overnight in London with friends as I can’t do London there and back in a day, no more.

Andy Dunn did his usual anti Mancini article in the manumirror.

Surprisingly Spuds got a result at O/T so maybe other teams are getting the idea that they can give em a game.

Just been on Blue Tuesday, so we’ve got a bit of publicity for the milestone 200th issue.

Anyway it’s Dortmund tomorrow here’s the It’s A fix update from KK 200, no less : 6A) WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 3RD CHAMPIONS LEAGUE GROUP D MATCHDAY TWO : BORUSSIA DORTMUND (HOME) KO 7.45PM

The Borussians or the Black ‘n yellows were church sponsored and formed in 1909 by a group of young men who were unhappy about the stern rules applied by the local priest. Their famous strip was adopted in 1913.

In 1929 they nearly went bust and were bailed out by a wealthy supporter and in the 1930’s their anti -Nazi stance caused board members to be executed.

In 1956 and 1957 they won National titles, and joined the newly formed Bundesliga in 1963, winning the Cup in 1965 and the Cup Winners’ Cup in 1966 beating Liverpool 2-1.

They struggled in the 70’s both on and off the pitch but didn’t recover until 1989 when they won the Cup.

In the nineties they won titles in 1995 and 1996, plus the Champions league in 1997 beating the rags on the way and prompting me to purchase BvB shorts which still fit! They also won the Super cup and Intercontinental cup.

In 2000 they were the first, and only, German club to float on the German stock exchange, and won a further title in 2003, but lost in the final of the UEFA Cup. By 2005 they were heavily in debt and refinanced by selling their ground plus the naming rights, but were nearly relegated in 2007 and 2008. After Jurgen Klopp took over  they won the title in 2011 and again last season plus the Cup.

They moved into the Westfalenstadion in 1974, a typically English type ground.This was redeveloped in 2006 and renamed Signal Iduna Park having a capacity of 80,720 and their average in 2010/11 was a phenomenal 80,478.

Siegfried Held is their fan attendant.

If you check out your Us and Them book you’ll find that friendly games have been played:

1956/57 away when City lost 4-1

1967/68 4-0 home, 1-2 (USA)

2010/11 away 1-3

They won their first Euro group match 1-0 v Ajax at home, and currently after 6 games in the Bundesliga are 3rd with 11 points and 3 wins 2 draws 1 loss (7 points behind Bayern M), but have just thrashed Monchengladbach 5-0 at home..

Tonight it’s also Ajax v Real Madrid.

A word of warning – check that you’re registered in the Cup schemes, cos you never know.