Tuesday, 14 June 2016

Tuesday

Tuesday
What’s been going on? Attended the Former Players ‘do,’ organised to recognise Denis Law and Franny Lee being honoured with CBE ‘s and Steph Haughton's MBE which followed Alex Williams MBE. Fred said that  Steph couldn't attend as she had to stay at home to do the ironing. C'mon guys, it was virtually an all male do, see the funny side.
Buzzer said that Franny rang him up and said “I’ve got the CBE” Mike replied saying “I’m the Ambassador to Sheikh Mansour of Abu Dhabi. Fuck Off!!”
Fred Eyre announced that next year’s ‘do’ had already been organised and it would not be on a Thursday so that United ex players could attend. Comedian Mick Miller told us that his wife fancied being on the Jeremy Kyle show, so he told her he’d just shagged her sister so they could go on the show!
I got Franny to autograph my Bolton v City programme from 1960 when he made his debut for Bolton, at 16, and Denis autographed my Luton v City programme from 1961 when he scored 6 goals that didn’t count in the end. He also signed the Charlton v Huddersfield programme from 1956, a game in which he is named in the programme but missed the game through injury. Charlton, 5-1 down with ten men and twenty minutes to go won that game 7-6. Incredible.
It was a lucky night for brother Frank who won a pair of cuff links, and I won 4 tickets for a Lancashire cricket match of my choice, in the raffle.

Had a letter printed in the MEN re Maureen joining in with United’s legendary selective memory syndrome, which was responded to by some pillock called Jim Dunn who confirmed ULSMS by failing to mention that City were in the Chimps League and not United. In fairness they did print my response, but edited bits out.
Sue and I met up with Vicky Kloss at the media centre to discuss the anti-City bias, more of that later.

Then it was AC/DC at the Etihad with Ellie, my 15 year old granddaughter. Parked up in Funboy’s parking spot opposite the East stand car park and strolled across to entrance C and up to our level 2 seats. Brilliant gig, I wrote to the MEN postbag and they printed it in today’s edition. No quick getaway after the gig though as some prick decided to close the road onto Alan Turing Way and we had to drive all round the houses to get back to Ashton New Road.
On the same night Sue and Marnie went to see Gary James’ film at the Dancehouse. Maybe they’ll do a write up on it!

As for the Euros. Marseille has a reputation and any England and City fans who’ve been to Russia know what they’re like. I’ve always said that Football hooliganism should be treated like nuclear disarmament ie we’ll sort ours  out if you sort yours. We’ve pretty well done our bit but the Ruskies haven’t. So you get an imbalance. Russian Ultras v our nice supporters. Not quite as simple as that but you get my drift. As for the segregation in the ground, no further comment required. World Cup in Russia? Farcical. England were unlucky to draw the game and Raheem didn’t do himself any favours. I thought David Silva was back to his best for Spain.
So England v Wales up next. Welsh fans usually scrap between themselves, Swansea and Cardiff plus the Russians will be hovering so let’s see if lessons have been learnt. Any bets?
Dave

22 comments:

  1. Not sure I agree totally about our lads being whiter than white, particularly in the days before the game.
    The bare-chested, beer-swilling, chair-throwing “ten German bombers in the air” loud and proud English, aren’t necessarily hooligans, but equally they’re unlikely to be found in a local museum, or admiring the cathedrals and winefields of the French republic.
    Our idea of a good time is basically drinking hard and drinking fast. We hang around in large numbers, and react aggressively to the slightest provocation. We frequently blame the Police for overreaction, but seldom question our own actions.
    The violence was in Marseille, but the drunken scenes were reminiscent of a typical Saturday evening in Ibiza, Ayia Napa, or Faliraki. That’s what the English are like, and unfortunately, we’ve become a magnet for foreign hooligans.
    We all know that our real hooligans (many of them now in their mid 50s) were banned from travelling. However, the Russians and Marseille gangs just see wave after wave of English aggression, so it was always going to happen.
    Add a late Saturday kick off to the mix, and you’ve got a perfect recipe for carnage.

    The violence inside the stadium was completely different, and far more sinister.
    In fact, if a Russian supporter can smuggle a flare gun into a stadium, then you fear for public safety on a far more horrific scale.
    Many innocent English fans were caught in the panic, but sadly it was just an inevitable consequence of three days of stupidity.
    The reaction from the Russian FA and Media has been embarrassing, bordering on slanderous.

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    1. According to the Brit police spotters who monitor hooliganism there were England supporters up to no good but the Russians were more numerous and better organised. It seems to me that these brave hard lads look for the most vulnerable targets rather than tackle each other. Maybe a 500 hundred a side mass brawl could be organised in stadium somewhere with the losers/survivors paying the medical bills.

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    2. Hmm, you could be on to a winner there Steve. Why don't you contact sky sports and see if they will screen it.

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  2. Threats to chuck the Russians out are all they are, after all it wouldn't look good for the 2018 WC hosts to be booted out of Euro 2016. Partially agree with Neil in that you can usually spot a certain type of Brit abroad a mile off with a shaven head, lobster coloured tan, tattoos and a threatening look about him. But the ones being attacked inside and outside the stadium looked pretty innocent from the footage I've seen. The Russians look a tough looking bunch and there is a clip on YouTube called Russians vs Muslims (a street fight) that backs it up. I certainly wouldn't like to run into a group. Regarding Sterling. I thought he did OK to start with, in fact The Sun gave him 7/10 on Sunday, but by Monday it had dropped to 6/10. As Neil has pointed out elsewhere, perhaps if he hadn't spent a season being booed by all and sundry, he might have a bit more confidence.

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  3. .......by the way, I thought Zlatan had a ordinary game at best and a terrible one at worst against Ireland, yet The Sun watch couldn't praise him enough finding lots of good points. Ending with he is a match made in heaven for United. Equally, the commentator in the game against Portugal and Iceland compared Ronaldo with the song "Stuck in the Middle" "Clowns to the left of him, jokers to the right, so much better is he than the players around him." Very respectful! At the end of the game, he walked off the pitch and ignored attempts by the Icelandic players to shake his hand. Ferguson's guiding and fatherly hand has certainly rubbed off

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  4. It's funny how you try to remain impartial, just hoping for a good game of football Then you take one look at Evra,or Ronaldo, and suddenly it's easy to find a team to support.
    I agree with Tony about that spoilt twat last night. Originally, I was totally against the Euro's expanding to 24, but seeing the joy on the faces of the Hungarian and Icelandic supporters had caused me to rethink.
    Portugal should still qualify so the least Ronaldo could do was applaud the Iceland players.
    That's why in twenty years time, everyone will remember Messi with far more affection.

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  5. Ronaldo firmly put his foot in mouth with his quite silly and patronizing post match comments after the draw with Iceland. He really should move back to Man United and team up with Mourinho and Zlatan that way Old Trafford could change its name from the Theatre of Dreams to the "mutual masturbation and admiration society". Three of football's most selfish and biggest ego's united at United. To paraphrase the late great comedian Bill Hicks, three fevered egos tainting our collective unconscious.

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  6. "When Ego's Collide".Can't wait for the season to start.

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  7. I've just got to vent my anger at the treatment of Raheem Sterling during coverage of the England v. Wales game. Shearer's determination to criticise the lad lead him to talk utter b*ll*cks. He criticised Sterling for not going wide to provide width for the attack. It was quite obvious he'd been told to come inside to make space for the attacking full-backs. In the second half when neither of the substitutes went wide, Shearer complimented the way the full-backs got forward to create width! Then he started on Sterling again. Any comment on Rooney's stupidity in giving away a needless free kick leading to Wales's goal? Not a word.

    Yes, Sterling did miss a chance early on, but Sturridge missed a few, even falling over the ball at one attempt but of course all that passes without comment as he finally got the winner. Rashford? "He played like a kid in a kick about with his mates" - yes, me in my younger days and I was crap too!

    I've got to the stage where I hope Raheem isn't picked for England any more this summer as it must be destroying his confidence and simply providing more fodder for the booing morons. Get him back to the Etihad under a proper coach and lets see what he can do then.

    Rant over (I needed that.......)

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  8. Well said RB. I've just finished having a big discussion with my nephew (A Red) who reckoned Sterling was awful. I notice that Hart was also slated for the goal yet Wayne Rooney hasn't been mentioned for stupidly giving away the free kick. Here's what was said on Flash scores "Wayne Rooney (England) should know this behaviour is beyond the rules. He was too careless with his challenge and made Felix Brych blow the whistle." By tomorrow, there'll be no mention of it, only how poor Hart and Sterling were. Suddenly I understand why United fans used to sing you can stick f*kin England up your posterior

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  9. Interesting that it's Sturridge v Weiss on Monday. Two players from City successful 2008 FA Youth Squad.

    I await the media hype with mounting anticipation, as obviously we're going to be overladen with infinite credit.

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    1. Don"t hold your breath! Don't forget Robbie Mak!

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    2. I remember Mak, but wasn't sure if he played in the 2008 team,or the following year.

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  10. I think Kane and Ali should be thankful that Sterling has become the pantomime villain for all and sundry.
    Both players contributed nothing, but Sterling-bashing has become a national pastime.

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  11. Thought Alli tried and tried but was lacking the final burst of energy at times. Kane looks marginal in the original formation but met be good with a partner. Raheem is trying his best but his strengths are not holding the ball up with back to goal so a square peg in a round hole.

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    1. I don't think any of us are suggesting that Sterling is having a great tournament (he isn't). The bone of contention is that he is not alone - as you have said, Kane hasn't done much, I would add that Lellana has run about quite a bit but to little effect and others have hardly been outstanding - yet he alone has been repeatedly savaged for his performances (we are now hearing that Kane is 'tired' after his exertions this season - so is excused insipid performances). I'm not Roy Hodgson's greatest fan but he did at least defend Sterling's selection for the Wales game on the basis that the lad had performed quite well against Russia and "had done what was asked of him" despite opinions to the contrary in the media.

      Like many City fans I was somewhat disappointed by Raheem Sterling's performances for us last season - I was certainly hoping for much more BUT I now feel obliged to support the lad and will certainly be doing so in discussions from now on and vocally at the stadium next season.

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  12. I watch most of the Euros with a sense of detachment - not caring much about how or if England progress. I'm more concerned for the health of all our active players there than a win or lose for a bunch of over-ego'd under-achievers wearing a white shirt. What struck me is that our fingerprints are now all over the tournament - even to one of the Albanians who was identified as a former Academy graduate (didn't catch his name). But I often think of Summer tournament football as just a temporary diversion to keep me getting bored between Test Matches.

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    1. I'm with you on this Geoff, my greatest concern about the Euros is that all of our players return ready for next season fit and healthy.

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    2. On that note, as Vincent is doing his pundit bit on the TV, can we assume that he's had his required operation(s) and is currently recuperating ahead of getting fit for next season? If he's put off the op to do this egg heads bit, then I'll be less than impressed.

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    3. I'll contradict myself here - no sense of detachment when seeing Cristiano Ronaldo being made to look a complete dick in front of the whole of Europe. Still possible for him to finish 4th and have to slink off blaming defensive teams, refereeing, sloping pitches, distraction from his hair gel and in fact anything other than being a prime grade wanker.

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  13. I think it's brilliant watching Ronaldo and Ibrahimović being made to look exactly what they are, over rated, over the hill players who have enjoyed playing in relatively non competitive leagues against players who stand and watch while they tap the ball around. In the euros they have come across ordinary but hard working opponents who go in hard but fair and give them little time to think. take note Mr Guardiola

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