Sunday, 24 July 2016

Sunday

Sunday
Catching up, it was a 1-0 loss in Munich. Young team, pressed well, but Willy made 3 great saves to keep it at 0-0. Not much penetration from the Blues. Senior players came on in the second half which we dominated, but went behind to a fluke deflected goal.
Season card pack arrived on Friday, and quite impressive to those of us who like that sort of thing. We’re now all Cityzens, except on page 39 of the Ultimate City Squad we become just ordinary Citizens again, for one page.
Watched ‘Grimsby’ on DVD (£10 from Tescos) to relieve the summer boredom. Hilarious if a bit crude, Sacha Baron Cohen is a genius. There’s one bit in it where there are riot police outside the pub and he tells his young mob they’re manchester united fans, go get ‘em. Classic. Rags tomorrow, hope we convert some Chinese fans to our cause.
KK234 coming along nicely, 34 pages so far, deadline is tomorrow.

Dave

43 comments:

  1. Given it was tucked away on Radio 4 at 9:00 am last Monday you may have missed a programme called The Long View. It was about the cult of the football manager but although it started with a look at the Pep/Jose thing was mainly about Joe Mercer and Matt Busby. The 67/68 season reviewed in some detail although no mention of Ballet on Ice.
    Very enjoyable half hour especially for those of us of a certain age. Worth a listen and i guess you can get it on the BBC catch up thing!

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    1. Thanks Jeff - definitely worth a listen. Don't think this blog supports hyperlinks so you'll just have to copy and paste this... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07knmp7#play

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  2. Don't you think it's a touch ironic that a match beween 2 Manchester teams (well, 1 from Manchester and the other from Stretford) is cancelled because of rain

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  3. DID City not have similar problems in china 20 something years ago ? (Match cancelled due to a monsoon - may have been whilst ball was manager ) edgeley park and gigg lane are perfectly playable btw .

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    1. Yes, that was 96/97 season I think when they flew 10000 miles and played one game. Thanks for the link Geoff and Jeff for bringing that to our attention, I will give it a listen. There are certain seasons that just stay in your memory and 67/68 will always be one. mainly because my mum and I went off to Majorca on holiday for the last two weeks of the season and I had to rely on Majorca's English newspaper for the results. So whilst you lot were celebrating the Newcastle win on the Saturday night, it was Sunday around 10.00am before I could begin my celebrations

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  4. S Bucharest then. I would have fancied meeting Young Boys. Would anyone else have wanted a pairing with Young Boys and can anyone explain why people keep looking at me funny when I tell them so?

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  5. Apparently their match day programme is popular all all around the world, can't think why!

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  6. OK, so the big kick off is next Saturday yet we look like we need another few weeks of preparation. Today's game left me feeling very confused about our style of play, and most of the players by the looks of it as well. I fear we're going to get off to a really sluggish start under Pep, until the players buy into his preferred system, but this could take a couple of months.

    And can we please get rid of Kolarov, Bony, Nasri, Mangala, Zucculini, Toure. Shouldn't be that difficult should it?.

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  7. I thought we were awful yesterday. No fluency, poor defensively (although I accept that playing a midfielder and a left back as your CD's doesn't help) toothless up front and can someone explain what position Clichy was playing because if he was LB, he was well out of position. This tactic of the goalkeeper playing the ball out will catch us out many times. Both Hart and Cab were caught several times with the ball at their feet and their only outlets closed down. Their instinct was to play it long, but under instructions not to, they played it to a marked colleague in a dangerous position. On one occasion, Cab tried to find a blue shirt and it went straight to Chamberlain (I think) who should have done better with an open goal. Yesterday was the last chance to play as close to our best team as possible as Arsenal did (although it back fired on them losing Gabriel)

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  8. Whatever it may be, and it may even fail at least this is a man with a plan. I don't expect us to hit the ground running a lot of work has to be done to undo the mess that Pellegrini left behind. New players,new systems,I think we may be at least 10 games in before the "Pep"effect starts to kick in.

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  9. Big room for improvement, although Arsenal did play well. It's concerning that Kolarov with all his defensive frailties, and one of the first expected to be shown the door, could play ahead of Deneyar, Mangala, Otamendi or the lad with the never ending name whose passing can be an accident waiting to happen.
    If we can get through the first 4 games unbeaten with, say, 8 or 9 points, together with C/L progress, I'd be delighted.
    I thought YaYa looked like he'd dropped a stone and some, and did look more at it that most of last season. However, I don't want us looking to him to pull the strings again. Silva looked well off the pace, although Raheem was ok in parts. I expect KDB, Sergio, Gundogan and Sane to be the main men this season, so the others will need to be ready to hit the ground running when used.
    How come we can sign these future superstars and then loan them out, surely they're good enough to be considered now or worked on by Pep at the club now for next season?
    I note that Dennis Suarez is now featuring for Barca, remind me how much we sold him for?
    One final aside, how come the cost of our signings in the press have all the add ons added in to quote a figure, eg Raheem at £49m rather than £45m. Yet Pogba's transfer fee doesn't? He's now down to £89.1m and shrinking all the time, he'll be 50p by the time they've finished.

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  10. You mean the best player the world has ever seen Dave?. What a coup for scum, 100m net loss, lol.

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  11. I suspect Pogba's fee was £89 million + somewhere between £10-20 million the agent is owed. The clubs may have come to some agreement with him so that he received £10 million with a further £5 million as add-ons, but clearly, they wanted Pogba to be the biggest transfer ever (to make a statement) but didn't want to admit to gouing over the £100 million barrier. You must remember that just as clubs are holding US to ransom, United are now in the same boat. I really hope I'm wrong, but I am already staring to have a few concerns about our dealings under Pep. Mangala, Kompany and Otamendi are all injured apparently - how has this happened? But as Dave says, to play Kolarov and Fernando as makeshift CB's doesn't make sense. OK, they may have turned out to be the brilliant in the role, but it was never likely, so the better option would have been to give Denayer and Tos game time to adjust.

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    1. It's been like pulling teeth, but I did find somewhere the explanation that the agent's chunk of £15-18M was being 'part-paid' by both clubs - didn't specify what the proportion was but at 50/50 that probably takes it over the £100M point. Hopefully there isn't much agent payment required for Stones - it's not that far up the East Lancs Road.

      United very much seem where we were when all we were able to offer players was a hope for the future and some relaxing Europa League games. Lack of the CL is something which you have to pay for in wages usually - and in commitment. Some of our recruits from that era were a bit money-hungry, Yaya in particular. We stopped having to pay such high wages in CL season 2 or 3. Can't see Pogba taking any less than 250K/week and it has knock-on effects for those who are assured of equal highest paid status (Rooney/Ibra). Unless the scum return to the CL next May belts will have to be tightened.

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  12. Is the sack Pep bandwagon starting to roll? That was only a friendly, he could be in big trouble if,heaven forbid he should lose a proper game.

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  13. Of course not Steve, but surely (don't call me Shirley) you agree it isn't the time to be experimenting, especially playing two players out of position when he has two bright young prospects champing at the bit for game time? At worst even if the doesn't rate either of them, it would have given other clubs the chance to see them in action.

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  14. I don't disagree with any of the comments about the defence. A shortened pre season has caused problems and maybe the younger players can be eased in slowly. The Steau game will not be a game for 'cissies' so maybe he is going for a dogs of war approach. At least some of the 'important' players looked to be on song, Sergio,David, Raheem and Zab, Clichy did not impress me last pre season and still doesn't. If Stones can be slotted in with Otamendi and Fernandiho the defence would look better.

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  15. Whilst the selection of the two to play centre-back was a puzzle, I was a little concerned to see the performance of Nolito who, in addition to looking a bit rusty, made Javi Garcia look like Usain Bolt in comparison. One of our failings over the last couple of seasons has been how lethargic and unfit we've looked. With the acquisition of Sane, the expected revitalisation of Sterling and any number of other players who can play in a wider role I'm a bit unclear as to what he adds to the squad. Still, very early days yet - in Pep we trust.

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    1. Personally I thought we looked as unfit as ever against Arsenal. I'm a tad concerned that we're going to get off to a very sluggish start this season, and wouldn't be surprised if we failed to beat Sunderland on Saturday.

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  16. Navas did more in 62 seconds than Nolito did in 62 minutes and I'm hardly his biggest fan

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  17. Nolito will turn out to be a major flop I reckon. I wasn't particularly impressed with him in the Euro's, and his running style is something to behold. Maybe he'll be warming the bench anyway for the remainder of the season.

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  18. Anyone noticed the City injury jinx has already started, this time Sane who has been here five minutes. Some rumours are having him missing for eight weeks, due to a torn hamstring. Only at City....

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  19. This can't be coincidence. We start the season with no recognised CB's according to the media. Something must be wrong with our training

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  20. Crumbs, that was poor wasn't it, but with the right result obviously. I was worried about the start we'd make to this season and my fears haven't really been allayed after today's performance.Impressed with Sterling and Kolarov, Sterling looking like the player we saw at Liverpool in that first season. So two positives, the result and the fact that we're going to get a lot better.

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  21. What's going on with the Blog? Last ed update 24 July. Hope AOK with Dave.

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    1. I saw him in the East Stand yesterday, he looked OK, probably keeping his gunpowder dry.

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    2. It's taken me a day or so to recover from that one. We dominated possession, passed the ball around with more purpose, yet seemed to make fewer chances than we did with MP as boss Unfortunately, the old failing of our opponents needing only three chances to score one goal is still there. Can't agree with PG's decision to play Cab ahead of Joe. I didn't see anything in Cab's distribution that was any different to Joe's. MotD explained Pep's idea of using false full backs, but I'm not convinced Clichy Sagna are the right men for that role. Both seem more like traditional full backs to me. Great to see Sterling looking better, but DeBruyne and Aguero were anonymous.

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    3. I hope all is well at KK towers. Mangala and Denayer both seem to be out of the picture. Kolarov uses his right foot to stop him falling over so seems an odd choice for his new position. A satisfactory debut game for Pep.

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  22. I worry that defensive set up is going to see us badly caught out against some of the bigger boys. Don't get why Pep has a downer on Joe Hart or Kolarov picked to play central defender ahead of Mangala or Denayer, indeed given the good things heard about the latter, don't understand why he appears to be getting binned off without being given a chance.

    Positives were Sterling, Stones and David Silva looking closer to his best.
    KDB did ok, but left his shooting boots at home, likewise Kelechi. Nolito didn't have the most auspicious debut.

    Not confident at all about the trip to Romania...

    Alex

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  24. the very strong rumours are today that joe has played his last game for city after burning his bridges on friday ? pep doing exactly what he did at barca - getting rid of the bad influences in the dressing room(toure also ? ) !! i seem to recall that worked out quite well in the end ?

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  25. Proper dummy spit out by hart , by all accounts a real meltdown. Surprised he actually made the bench !! Will be amazed if he is still here in September?

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  26. I'm still convinced that this is entirely Pep trying to get Joe focussed on his job and to become a better keeper. He needs to work on his kicking and on getting down to his left and he could become better with his feet and with pushing forwards. I think he'll play tomorrow, do OK and we'll have an ongoing saga to the end of August. Feelers will be put out to get a fresh keeper but £60M+ for ter Steegen is an inefficient use of the dosh. He might be better than Joe but the extra £40M we'd spend (after selling Joe) could be better used.

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  27. Has there been a mention from the club re Dalian Atkinson? Not with us for long - 7 apps 2 goals I think - seems every other former club has paid tribute...

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    1. Anyone else spotted at the start of Sunday Supplement that the first visual image, albeit briefly, has been the same one since the start of the 13/14 season? Yep, it's our friends from trafford the last time they one the league, bias? surely not.
      I thought the refs could clamp down a bit this season, but we've already had no card for Rugney for a blatant dive in the area, and Costa's assault on the Wham 'keeper not warranting a 2nd yellow.
      Kolarovv was ok as the stand in c/b, but does anyone not think he's a disaster waiting to happen, especially in that role? It looks like Mangler and Deneyar are surplus, but have we had a good look at the latter? One assumes that a fit Otter or Kompany will be preferred to Alex when available.

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  28. So I was wrong about Joe. I'm forced to conclude that he's tried to play Billy Big Bollocks with Pep and hasn't even tried to fit in with the system. Pep isn't stupid enough to think that Willy is a better keeper than Joe and there's no sign of Willy being a natural at sweeper-keeper nor of him passing the ball out any better. If Joe was accepting of Pep's dictates hen he would have the chance to give it a go and compare and contrast. The fact that he hasn't implies to me that Joe has told him where he can stuff his sweeper-keeper and that he isn't going to be treated like that because he's England's No 1.

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  29. There is a world of difference between confidence and arrogance , " Englands no. 1" has plenty of the latter but not much of the former !! Fred " dinosaur" Eyre was forced to eat his words on radio Manchester tonight after slagging big Willy off pre match and for the opening 20 minutes or so - amazes me how he still retains his job as a pundit these days , rarely has much positive to say - surely us license fee payers deserve better 😉

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  31. Steaua were poor tonight, but that shouldn't take anything away from our performance. Aguero could comfortably have scored six and we really should have made it eight or nine. Aguero had a laser pen shined into his eyes for one penalty miss and also the keeper came off his line for the second and the kick should have been re-taken, but I think it's time for Serge to step down from penalty taking duties

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  32. For the first time in what seems ages ago, I really enjoyed watching us against Steau. The fluidity was there together with bags of effort, something we've not seen these last two seasons. We'll probably get done at Stoke now, it's just the way we do things.

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  33. Agree with Dave about the Grimsby film, funny but a bit concerning in places especially the elephant scene ( he'll know what I mean).

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